For questions contact Don Long @ 513-947-1028
1. Any sedan or station wagon 78' or newer. (call on your 77 models NO CHECKER CABS)
2. Helmet, seatbelt & eye protection ,long pants must be worn at all times. no cut off shirts.
3. Any controversies or protests must be brought up during Driver’s Meeting.. If it doesn’t say you can do it don’t do it.
4. All 77and 78 sedans that can run must have all tags, vin. plates seatbelts in place and not tampered with.(no exceptions) got title bring it.
5. Judges decision final. May reject any or all entries for any reason and cars are subject to reinspection at any time.
6. Cars must be stock unless modification is stated in the rules. We may drill or cut on any car at any time
7. All glass, plastic, bumper covers, trailer hitches/ braces & interior must be removed before arriving at the event.
8. Motor of choice. It will not have any plates, tubing or pipe going to the frame rails in any way if you do run chain 1per side to the engine cradle. Distributor protectors are ok but can not be any wider then top of motor. It may be bolted to the back and the top of the engine only Remember its for the distributor not the hole engine. It cannot be welded to the dash bar or have any chain plates or pipes on it.
9. You may run a after market Drive shaft, Trans & Oil coolers. All coolers can not be used to strengthen the car..
10. A 12x12 inspection hole must be put in all trunk lids. Trunk lids may be sled up under the speaker tray but still needs the 12x12 hole
11. Original gas tank must be removed & replaced with a boat-type tank. Gas tanks in cars can not be used to help strengthen the car
12. Batteries must be moved to passenger’s side floorboard . The battery box can not strengthen the car in any way.
13. You may weld, wire, bolt doors, trunk lids, tail gates shut. 3in max wide plates. Plates can not over lap or hide other welds. No plate welding on roof or window posts tack welds or wire only. You can lay over and tack weld the tops of the door skins to the inside skin.
14. No interior seam welding will be permitted. On pre-ran cars, some sheet metal can be repaired back to stock only.
15. Frame welding limited to the bumper mounting areas only. Any year bumper. All seams on the bumper can be welded but no adding of any metal You can weld the top frame seams (1 pass) from the front of the A-arms forward.
16. There is to be no altering the pitch of the front frame in any way past the stock position. Notching /pre-bending is ok.
17. If A frame section needs to be replaced or fixed due to rust 1spot only. Also up to two body mount holes (washers only) You also can re- weld up to 6in.of mist frame seams (one pass) using the formula 1in. weld 1in not totaling 6inches max per car.
18. PRE-RAN CARS ONLY. You may put 4, 3x3 inch plates on cars that have frame or seam damage. (No 1 plate bigger than 3x3)
19. The pre-ran cars that have been bent at the feet, can be pulled back down to the stock position, but you cannot use the 3x3 plates to repair that spot. We well let you weld the flap only. In 2008 if car is pulled down past the stock position it will not run.
20. Angles for the cross member to sit on can’t be any longer than 5 in. and can only be welded to the inside frame rails not the box.
21. You must have num. 9 wire or something like that (1,stock car leaf spring) in windshield area for safety (no thick plates or tubing )
22. You may modify tie rods & control arms & use valve stem protectors. And add 3 bolts per wheel well (Hands with only)
23. You may use a floating gas tank protector that comes off the back bar, but it cannot be wider than 2 ft. from outside to outside It may go all the way against the sheet metal. But do not beat the sheet metal back to the frame. The protector must be free floating and have no type of bars, plates or tubing welded to the bar protector.
24. You must have 4 spots on the hood to keep it secure bolts 1inch dia, max, Washers and Angles for hoods are 4 inch max or just use wire.
25. Any year stock hood can be used. Hoods must be open for inspections. (12x12in hole over carburetor) if no hood plastic fan or no fan.
26. If automobile is tucked (the back 12 inches of body only) there must be large access holes to see in (no wedging,:call)
27. Body mounts must remain in place or A 1 inch. stack of washers or hockey puck, type set up will be enforced .
28. You may remove the front 2 mounts & alter that area only for strength you can weld the eye and add a small plate on top of the eye only welding the tip of the plate to the frame (3x4 inch max plate). You also can use 1in. all-thread for the front two mounts only. It can start at the body mount go through the core support using the all-thread for hood bolts (In 2008 2x2 tubing between core support and frame only)
29. Body bolts & washers may be changed. (1 inch diam. bolt max, 4 in. max washers) Must start up in side stock position.
30. You can weld a 2x2 inch plate from the tip of the A-arms to the top of the frame or bolt it nothing more. you can change out upper A-arms
31. All built cars must sit level within 5 inches with no car sitting lower then 18in. or higher the 23in. from the bottom of the bumpers.
32. Coil springs in the rear must be used and may be welded , wired or chained to the rear-end. You also may run all-thread in place of your shocks. The all thread can go up inside the car and be used as a body mount where the shock is mounted or inside coil spring. Rear-end protectors must be small and fit tight to the rear-end with no tubing, chain, plates or pipes coming off of it. (If so bring torches)
33. You may use rear-end of choice as long as it is a 5-lug-Axel rear-end.
34. Leaf springs must be stock length and thickness and must stay in the stock position The shackles can be home made 1/4 thick max. A total of 5 springs plus the main with a 2in.stair step front and rear (2 home made clamps per side only) In 2008 you cannot move the leaf springs
35. You can add a piece of angle (4x4in angle 1/4 thick max) to the top of the core support but can only be 1inch wider then the largest radiator.
36. There is to be no painting of the frame the frame must remain stock. Absolutely no hump plates. (I have the write to load any car )
37. You may have a roll cage surrounding the driver’s compartment with a overhead bar.(straight across bolted in two spots) Bars must be sheet metal-to-sheet metal (no down kickers) Back bar can not be no further back then where the kick panel meets where the bench seat rests and must be at least 6 in. off the floor. Front bar must be 6 in. from the center of the fire wall. Side bars can be inside the doors or inside the car. The bars can not be no bigger the 4x6. Side bars can not go past fire wall. We will allow one diagonal bar from the back bar passenger side to the driver’s side rocker panel floor pan. and one bar from the center of dash bar to the dist. protector-(kickers no wider then 4in x 4in) There will not be any bars molded to the fire wall all bars will go straight a cross over or under the steering column .With gussets being no bigger then 3inches in the corners of the cage. (Bring torches if you do not under stand these rules)
38. All Shock tubes can be welded solid but must stay in the stock area/ location. All brackets must stay original but can be welded on solid
39. Clarification on calls regarding car building will be made the day of the event due to the interpretation of the rules by the car builder.
Small Class Rules
1. Any year small car limited to 106 inch. wheelbase allowed ( F. W .D. only shows 109 Wb, no v-8's or AMC’S in small car classes)
2. All full size building rules apply for small class also.
3. Electric fuel pumps must have a shut off switch (If you can use key switch) within reach of driver and clearly marked
2008 Back to Back Car Building- Recap
BUMPERS - Any year- all seams of the bumper can be welded but no adding of any metal all brackets must remain stock and in stock position but can be welded solid. wire or chain can go around the bumper but not in front of the radiator for 2008 also 2 flat plates 4x4in max can go from the bumpers to the frame (not the body) to keep the bumpers from coming off.
CORE SUPPORT- It may have a piece of angle 4x4 across the top of the support but can only be 1 inch longer then the largest radiator. on pre-ran cars the core support can be patched/welded back up to hold the radiator but to much weld and you will have to cut.
BODY BOLTS- Can be changed the bolt size max is 1inch washer max size is 4inch dia.
BODY MOUNTS - The mounts can be changed to a 1 inch stack of washers or a hockey puck type of mount if you decide to use the rubbers you must keep some metal in the mount to get the one inch gap that is required. The front two core support mounts can be altered with weld and all thread , all the other mounts must remain stock as for rust we will let you weld washers into two mounts that need fixed due to rust .We at any time be for any payout may ask you to remove a body mount to make sure there all not welded.
FRAME- Frames can not be pulled down past the stock position in any way. If we fill it has been altered or something is not write weather it has been welded on or just pulled down you will not get to run and may have to be loaded . In 2008 you can weld the top frame seam from the front of the A-arms forward . You also can shorten the front of the Lincoln . You also can swap frames but it must stay ford to ford and chevy to chevy with all frames being 80 or newer as for rust one spot per frame only. Bad frames can be clipped but only at the cross member ( 90 degree Butt weld only). You can weld up to 6in max of mist frame seams 1in on 1in off =6in max per frame. Pre-ran frames with damage can be repaired with the 4 - 3x3 plates we allow you to use. You can not have any type of hump plate and you can not use HD gussets on cars that don’t come (factory) with them or load, plate or pin the rails, humps or boxes in any way and if done you would not be invited back.
BODY-All doors, trunk lids, tail gates may be welded with 3 inch max plates 1/4 inch thick. Plates can not over lap or hide other plates. All window frames can be tack welded or wired in the corners of the doors. No thick plates or pipes in windshield wire or something equal to wire (1stock car leaf spring). In the back window wire only (2 spots from roof to speaker tray only). Trunk lids can be sled up under the speaker tray and welded or bolted into place plus every trunk lid must have a 12x12 hole cut in it. Trunk lids can have all thread from the floor pan only thru the center of the trunk straight up and down (2 spots). Tail gates can be removed or cut down and re-welded. You can not cover up any tail light holes they must stay open . For tucking wagons please call there are restrictions.
ENGINE- Any type but must be bolted or welded in on the engine cradle there can not be any plates or pipes coming off the motor to the frame rails. If you do use chain (1 per side) it may only go to the engine cradle or a factory bolt(not welded) in front of A-arm. You can use a distributor protector to protect the distributor only not the sides of the engine the protector must stay on top and bolted on the back side of the motor. NO engine protectors.
REAR-END-Any type of 5 lug Axel rear-end. Rear-end must use the coil springs the control arms can be modified but must be mounted into the stock position .If your putting a old style rear-end under a 2000 and up model be carful on how much welding you do. the only welding you can do is just enough for the 4 rear-end brackets. if we fill the brackets are welded in a way that they make the car stronger you will have to cut.
In 2008 the protectors are for the rear-ends only no tubing plates or chain on it. The protector can not be very wide just a few inches past the tubes. The shocks can be replaced with one inch all thread in that position or inside the coil spring and can go up inside the body and use the all thread for two more body mounts.
CAGE- It may be a 4 point cage with a over head bar (straight across) All bars must be sheet metal to sheet metal. The bar behind the seat can sit no further back where the kick panel meets the bench seat. The front bar has to be at least 6 inches from the center of the fire wall and must go over or under the steering column. The gas tank protector must come off the back bar and only be 2ft. wide. The gas tank can sit on top of the protector or down inside the protector. The protector can go all the way against the back rest metal but can not be welded or bolted to it. The only two kickers that can come off the cage is the one in center of the front bar going to the dist. protector and the other is the angle bar behind the front seat to keep the bars (square) from getting into the gas tank. There will be no other crazy bars aloud so don’t ask.
(3inch triangle max on gussets for the cage)
GAS TANKS/BATT. BOX, TRANS/OIL COOLERS- In 2008 there will be no gas tank boxes gas tanks will be mounted to the floor board or on top of the floating cage. In small cars no tunnel tanks boat type derby tanks only .All batt, boxes trans and oil coolers can not strengthen the car in any way or will have to be taken out.
DRIVE SHAFT/ TIRES & CHAINS- Any after market shaft O.K. Any ,car, truck, forklift, tractor tire ok.
HEIGHT LIMIT- Built cars must sit level within 5 inches with NO car sitting lower then 18in.,higher then 23 from the bottom of bumpers.
In 2008 these are the rules so don’t call and ask to do something different. Build what we let you build, and come and have fun. Do not read between the lines or seek out gray areas. If you can’t follow these rules please just keep the car at home. Also no refunds on overbuilt cars or drivers telling me they did not know the rules. Rules will be held to the 1in. driver friendly rule. Any more & you will cut.
Thanks Don Long